That's why you could thrall a Bandit and see him or her spawn in Leather gear or Fur gear. One must take care when traveling through this area, as there are multiple dragon spawn points nearby, as well as trolls. to stay in one place or they're attacking a friendly NPC and you need them to stop. The Flame and Frost thralls each receive additional health and a fortified healing effect over their 60 second version counterparts. Other times, their pathing makes them run in the opposite direction. It's really as easy as that. You don't necessarily have to keep your corpses in your house. I can only see the comment and whether or not you up-voted or down-voted. However, if you are near an enemy, you will gain experience every time you recast the spell. I can tell you, however, she is not above the level of 40. Hey! He's always within melee range, so his frost cloak is almost always adding small amounts of damage on top of that. I may get to it at another point in time, so don't let that stop you from sending in something, but also, if you have something worthwhile, put it out there for others to see (like on the message boards) since I can be slow updating this guide. There are certain NPCs that will not disappear, even if you leave the cell for a month (in game time). And over. Once you have that, make your way to the College of Winterhold in the town of Winterhold. First off, huge props to masterpug53 for discovering this method. So what's the problem? if you kill malkoran and then kill his shade, thrall him, summon something else so he dies his shade appears again. She does however, know quite a few spells including: Ironflesh, Magelight, Multiple Destruction spells, three different wards, and a healing spell. An Imperial Assassin, Cicero is found in the Dawnstar Sanctuary (Just West of Dawnstar) during the quest The Cure for Madness (which is one of the final quests in the Dark Brotherhood quest line). She will often summons a Storm Atronach. Need to test how long exactly, but my initial guess would be around 11 days. If you want to raise a level 37 enemy you would need to use at least the expert spell, Dread Zombie. He says nothing unique and constantly moans. it will automatically go to the cursor allowing you to point at something for your follower to interact with. to a mudcrab only to be cut down in one swipe by its tiny little pincer. If you want the health bonus from Dark Souls, then you'll need to either kill them and re-thrall them each time you enter in a new area or take their robes away and let them run around in boots only. The main drawback for her is her level cap of 4. if so i would be willing to get thrown into cihdna mine for that. His Two-handed power attacks do a sizable amount of damage and when the player is at higher levels, Hajvarr comes equipped with Steel Plate Armor. He's completely silent outside of a few battle lines. They'll equip most anything you give them. You'll find him at the end of the quest Boethiah's Calling. While almost all of these items can be obtained only once, it appears that certain items can be obtained multiple times. Alternatively, you can travel to the Sacellum of Boethiah to start the quest. So if any of these items are placed inside a corpse's inventory, the corpse will be considered permanent, until the permanent item is removed from its inventory. It's important to note that in the vanilla game and patched versions 1.2 and below, bodies will to stay around for 7 or 8 days before disappearing, so if you are playing an un-patched version or a patched version 1.2 or below, and you visit your corpse every few days, it won't disappear. That means your Dremora Lord or your Familiar does not receive any extra health. Orchendor as a Dead Thrall . Well, there are NPCs that live in walled cities that are actually permanent, but because they are buried, they end up getting removed from the game instead. faster attack normal. Get Orchendor. There's also a neat little trick you can do to quickly ask your follower to do something. He keeps saying we dont use magic here, new blood and attacking me. She won't win too many battles with her max 1 HP, but she knows how to sit in a chair, in your house, very well. You finally have a minion/slave/friend. These Helmets that do not de-equip Circlets are: The Jagged Crown (received from the aptly named mission The Jagged Crown, which is an early quest when siding with either the Imperials or Stormcloaks in the Civil War quest line) and an Ancient Shrouded Cowl (which can be acquired from the quest Locate the Assassin of Old which is part of the Dark Brotherhood quest line), can both be worn in addition to a Circlet. I've only witnessed these hostile corpses respawning, and the aforementioned Briarheart was the one that this happened to. His Slam attack that would normally do 30 damage would now do 60, and there was no difference that I could tell in the animation. She is only permanent if grave robbed. I mean it. A mage with above average stats for a permanent corpse. Just be careful not to press the attack buttons in the menu as that will allow you to read the book, which you don't want to do. Bring this back to Phinis to complete the quest. Once you return from jail, your thrall will turn into a level 53 Volkihar Master Vampire. You actually gain an entire level, meaning if you're bar is halfway filled with experience, purchasing a skill increase will start you at the same part in the experience bar on the next level. Another perk of having a thrall is, it fills everyone�s dream of commanding a small army. She is friendly towards the player, but apparently she will turn hostile if the player returns from the basement of Anise's Cabin. I started a new Fallout 4 game a while back and used the "moveto" command to see what was happening with various people/places before the appropriate quest lines … If you are having trouble keeping your thrall alive, consider changing the difficulty to a higher setting. I still don't understand why I can't access their inventories sometimes. Atronachs have useful attributes, marred by downright physical weakness. Why? The same version of the Storm Atronach is used for both versions of the spells, instead of the thrall being a completely different version (which should have its own unique ID number). Once it's AI has been triggered to switch to close range, it tends to stay that way, only switching back to long range if the enemy loses its attention or if the enemy or the Atronach happen to put a bit of distance between each other for a few seconds or more. This means that if you are at level 10, and you purchase five skill increases from a trainer, you won't be able to purchase anymore skill increases until you reach level 11. Can i release serena from service and get back after a quest? If you want to add anything regarding unique thralls or you just want to say "Hi", click right here --> Contact Information. The easiest way to get to this place is to start from Solitude. But if you are looking to fast track your way through Conjuration, I've got some tips to make it easier. If not, you must have the patience of a snail. There is nothing the player can do to augment or prevent this, short of never completing the quest. They will have a little trouble standing up at first, but after a few seconds they will figure it out. A plus side is he can unintentionally take hits that were otherwise meant for the player. If all of the stuff looks the same, and your items in the containers are still there, the cell is then considered "safe". A warrior that also makes a better house decoration than companion. Being able to cast the same spell and receive the same Atronach lifts a certain "supervisory" feeling that a player can sometime perceive when maintaining and keeping dead thralls. The "I" in the word "In" is actually a lower case "L". So even though you found a really cool thrall that isn't permanent, it can be now! Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. as the kill cam plays. While the general scope of this FAQ is about humanoid thralls, I think these too are worth commenting on. How do you feel about having that repeated over and over and over? The overwhelming majority of generic NPCs (i.e. After a day, her body is taken to the Hall of the Dead so it is possible to pick her up there. As of patch 1.9, this still works and I'd argue that it's by far the fastest, albeit rather boring, way to level up your Conjuration Skill. This is used to denote that I don't know the exact number and the value is somewhere near the number that I have listed. The Abandoned Shack is found just East of Solitude. Correction regarding any enchanted pieces affecting the Dark Souls perk, not just Fortify Health. There's a lot of information regarding Thralls, especially the permanent thralls, as such, I'm sure there is a lot of information that I don't have or that is not very well known. It will generally be pretty close to what they already have. It gets rather annoying, rather quickly, and it wouldn't be as bad if this dialog was cycled into the normal dialog, but as it happens, this is really about the only thing NPCs will say to you when you have a thrall. There's just a small problem that can sometimes hold Orchendor back though; When enemies get close, he falls back to Frostbite. Fire works well against Frost, and conversely, Frost works well against Fire. Naming equipment is a good way of helping you keep track of it too. In other words, players use magicka to cast spells while Atronachs use no magicka but are still able to cast what is essentially the same spell, if that makes sense. A good time to thrall her is after completing Season Unending, while she makes her way back to Solitude by way of roads. He is also a chatty Cathy, so he may grate on your nerves quicker than other thralls. I say that your thralls have a really good chance of being permanent because it appears that not all thralls are permanent, but at the same time, they will stay longer than 24 hours. Something unique happens when citizens that live in walled cities die; They get buried at the local Hall of the Dead. So far, it appears that he is only killable if you side with the Imperials, as he is otherwise marked essential. Thralls constantly get stuck on small objects too. does anyone know if Madanach(sp?) Likely, it's just one flames spell being cast but the animation was done is a way that makes it look like two are going. You do not have to worry about storing bodies in your house. Dead Thrall on the other hand, raises only humanoid NPCs for 23,976 hours which, for all intents and purposes, makes your thrall permanent. So if you've smithed an Elven Dagger to a very high amount of damage, but you just gave your thrall a un-smithed Ebony Dagger to hold on to, your thrall will equip the Ebony Dagger that does less damage. The quest Toying with the Dead will take you through here. They have trouble crossing rivers, and even sometimes, they will not zone through some doors that lead into dungeons. The use of "Dead Thrall" on targets up to level 200. The items that you can enchant with Conjuration reductions are: A Grand Soul gem filled with a Grand Soul is preferable, but these can be expensive or hard to get at a low level. The Dark Souls perk in the Conjuration skill tree will be forfeited if his armor is enchanted. Speaking of which, Elemental Potency does not increase the damage done by your Atronach, just its health. It may be advantageous to hold off on reading these until your level in Conjuration is relatively high (around 70 or 80, or even waiting until 85), as the higher the players skill in Conjuration, the longer it takes to gain a level. Carefully evaluate … Therefore, it may be impossible to gain her as a dead thrall if you sided with the Imperials. Received as a quest reward for completing the quest, Go to the top of the College and cast the. A Dunmer Forsworn (yep, you read that right) found in Knifepoint Mine. The final category deals with thralls that last longer than 24 hours but are not entirely permanent. He spends almost all of his time at the Palace of the Kings in Windhelm. If you'd like to use this FAQ on your website, all you have to do is ask for permission and I will more than likely give it to you, provided that you do not alter the contents of the FAQ and your website is not lewd or offensive. A Forsworn Axe or Sword will both work. It would be a shame to lose a hour or more of time because you can no longer find your thrall, or they just happened to die to a bear when you weren't looking. Another potential problem is that if you decide to spare him, he is then marked essential and cannot be killed. Now your thrall is not receiving the health bonus. However, I recently found out that Cicero can be killed and permanently reanimated with the dead thrall spell, and that he'll retain his personality just like he would as a follower. His body is set to disappear after 24 hours even if he is thralled while completing this quest. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. You can also use a horse if you don't want to use a dead body. Necromancy doubles the amount of time that undead are raised for, and Atromancy doubles the amount of time that Atronachs are raised for. It may take a loading screen before they equip it, though. Moans. *nudge* Huh. (Needs to be confirmed). Volkihars auto heal and would be the sturdiest but even then you probably ash them eventually. Common trainers can level your skill from 1 - 50. Page 1 of 2 - I can't understand why necromancy is so popular in the Skyrim univ - posted in General Skyrim Discussion: Most undead minions you raise have a hard-as-hell time of actually DOING anything that it's almost useless. The problem is, whenever you go through a long loading screen, the bug takes over once again. Now, let's talk about some problems that you will face. Notably, Elemental Potency, which increases the health your Atronach has by 50%, is the main one to strive for. You might also check near Sarethi Farm which is Southeast of Nilheim. The reason being, the setting affects a global damage modifier. Found in Angarvunde which is found: Starting from Riften, Directly West from Riften is Goldenglow Estate. THE. If you are level 20, and your thrall is able to be at level 20, it will be. Dead Thrall no longer 'dead' Alright, so I used the Dead Thrall spell on a Master Necromancer, but after fast traveling, he disappeared on me, yet the spell remained active. NPCs that are level locked at a low level, aren't very effective in battle. He will switch to a weapon when the enemy gets right in his face, but if he can help it, he relies solely on his Flames spell for damage. Some stats listed below have a tilde ( ~ ) next to the number. Buy one today! So if I were to tell you that masterpug53 found yet another exploit, would you be surprised? If you've played around with your dead thrall a while, you've probably already grown a little tired of these two phrases. This is unnecessary and is probably more trouble than it's worth, and personally I wouldn't bother. In addition to it's Flames spell, it gets the Firebolt spell, which does 20 points of damage and sets the target on fire. Corpses now behave normally. The easiest way to kill off your Thralls is to cast. Whiterun is the only town that has named coffins. I've yet to see him do this while he is thralled, so he may not retain that ability. I hope you enjoyed this FAQ and got some helpful information out of it. First up is the Flame Thrall, which is the first thrall that the player will have access to in the game. "UUUUUHHHHHHH". They also almost always (as of 1.9) will teleport to you when you enter your house, so it's just a "little annoying" sometimes rather than being "not worth your time". The Thrall version uses Dual-casted Flames in place of this. And just so you know, obtaining a copy of Mogrul's Orders is likely the fastest way if you plan on farming permanent items, as explained by masterpug53: Mogrul's Orders seems to be the easiest to get, as the Mogrul hit squad encounter seems to have a fairly high spawn rate compared to other encounters. I said your thrall is more than likely permanent because there are still bodies that can stay around longer than one day, but not be permanent, as of Patch 1.9. From my testing, Frost Cloak only does 5 points of damage per second compared to that of the Flame Thrall and Storm Thrall which do 10 points of damage per second. To me, it seems to vary by what type of armor your follower is wearing. Hopefully you got some good use out of it. They'll equip higher grade materials first, even if it provides a lower armor rating (might be fixed with 1.9). The flame thrall generally is the weakest of the three, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the worst. Annoying, to say the least. Which one he will cast, I don't know), Frostbite (8pts of DPS which he can and will dual cast for 2.2x damage), Invisibility (rarely casts this and it's usually only up for a second or two before he breaks it), Healing spells that he will actually use as a thrall (Healing, Fast Healing, Grand Healing), Teleportation (unique to Orchendor and he's invincible while the purple aura is still up), Vile Vapor (does around 40pt of damage and looks like it might poison too), Some type of mage armor (probably Oakflesh or Stoneflesh), Healing (which he will actually use while thralled), Sparks (does 8 points of damage a second), Flames (does 8 points of damage a second). She is marked "Essential" and thus cannot be killed until the quest Battle for Solitude, which is gained only by joining up with the Stormcloaks for the Civil War quest line. At which point, the player is forced to walk backwards to kite the Frost Atronach from the said small space. The Flame Atronach does not possess this ability. It also has a Flame Cloak that does 10 damage a second to any enemy at close range, and an extra 10% damage per second when the enemy is on fire. HOWEVER, saving these books will likely only save time if you aren't grinding your Conjuration skill on a corpse or a horse. The quest that you deal with him is called The Eye of Magnus. Thralls are also handy for keeping the attention off of yourself. Log In to add custom notes to this or any other game. Many other radiant quests have the possibility to take you through this dungeon too. They will always receive 15% damage no matter what your numbers say so you will just ash your thralls eventually anyway. Single target attacks that are in the 50 - 65 range, and a melee explosion that does a little less damage, but will hit all nearby. Also useful for holding your junk. He's essentially, a named Bandit Chief, and the game even treats him as such, as casting Healing Hands on him while he is thralled, you'll get a message at top that will say, "Bandit Chief resisted Healing Hands". No footwear. And they're wearable by the player. The first quest Innocence Lost can be received from Aventus Aretino in Windhelm. Bounties can occasionally be moved in and out of your inventory and not stack, but it's not a guarantee; best to play it safe. These times can … On the flip side, this poses a predicament for the player that wants to keep multiple thralls, as leaving a thrall unattended for just a short period of time will see in their total departure from the game. TBH as soon as I heard about Dead Thrall I power-leveled on through some of the other spells. On every one of my skyrim saves, whenever I try to join the companions I get stuck on the train with Vilkas quest. In rare cases, they can disappear entirely from your game (possibly falling through the stage or getting stuck where you can't see them). Dual-casted Flames - Close range attack that does 8 points of damage per second. Before installing, if you have dead thrall, kill them all and then save your game. :(. The Storm thrall, however, does not. Period. Go away and stop following me! Hajvarr is found at White River Watch, which is just East of Whiterun. Thralling him afterwards will ensure that he has his enormous health pool, and saves the player from otherwise slaughtering him while he sleeps. Just remember to give them at least one arrow so they can use the bow. It appears that at least one of his attacks has a chance to do extra damage, which isn't necessarily noted by anything particular that I could tell. You can test this by dropping your thrall off at your house, fast traveling to somewhere that is (preferably) far away, and then waiting 24 hours. A Falmer Helmet or Pentius Oculatus Helmet may be a bit out of the way to get, but if you want it, your option is there. Most information regarding thralls is sparse and split up between different web pages, sites, and people. It's just the way that it is. However, I think the dispensable nature of Atronach thralls counteracts the lack killing power and, generally, low health pool. Dead Thrall on the other hand, raises only humanoid NPCs for 23,976 hours which, for all intents and purposes, makes your thrall permanent. I've thoroughly enjoyed talking to all of you guys and reading your messages. Septimus Signus's Outpost can be found by walking directly North from Winterhold. These corpses usually tend to be ones that were initially hostile towards the player when they were alive and they even behave in one of two ways. Flame Atronach does not possess this attack. It is worth mentioning though that his attacks drain enemies stamina by the same damage that is done to their health. 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